Okay, so they finally got Christopher Dorner holed up in a cabin.  I personally expected him to be somewhere else.

For all you Black Knight adulators, I am sorry, but Chris is no hero.  Sure, everyone knows that the LAPD is a brutal, racist, crooked, big city police department.  We all watch TV and read the news.  Everyone knows that.

Sure, it looks like Chris was screwed over by his superiors.  After reading his manifesto, I would venture a guess that he is the type of guy who thinks that he is always morally superior, when compared to his peers.  He seems like the type who would not tire of reminding you of that.  He seems like the type who had a chip on his shoulder, and rubbed people the wrong way.  He talks like a Liberal, really.  His world-view is shaped by Liberal ideology.

He also seemed like the type who actually was fun to be with, if you took the time to get to know him a little better.

It is always hard to be the outsider.  Especially the one who is the whistle-blower.  They will screw you over every time for that, just in another way.  You will never see it coming.

It is my opinion that Chris lost his job for reporting legitimate brutality perpetrated by his superior.  All the evidence is there.

The LAPD chose to ignore that, just so they could screw Chris.  That is how it looked.  They could only ignore that by claiming that it never happened.  They had a bellhop to back them up.  One of the most reliable witnesses in the history of jurisprudence.

The homeless guy probably had to be subdued.  But why lie on your report?

The homeless guy’s dad made a statement that his son had been roughed up.  But homeless people and their parents are not good witnesses in our Courts.

I have no doubt that Chris was fired by the LAPD because he did not fit in with their little fascist club.

But that does not excuse what Chris has done.  Why not mail all this to a newspaper outside of LA, without all the threats?

Why shoot the daughter and future son-in-law of your representative at the hearings, just because he was incompetent?  Because that is what it looks like.  Chris’s backup at his hearing was fired by the college a few months after being hired.  This was right after his retirement from the LAPD.  The college thought that they were getting more than they got.  Period.  That is my opinion.  Remember, I myself am a bureaucrat, and I know how that works.

So, Chris murdered two innocent people in cold blood.  Unforgivable.  I will not shed a tear for him.  And the other cop, and the Deputy, that was a direct result of his shooting the first two.

I pray for the ones he has killed and wounded.  You should too.

Chris, you hate guns?  So to prove that, and that you should not have the guns  you own, you are going to shoot people?  It is inconceivable, to me.  It sounds like something straight out of the Communist Manifesto.  Tear down society by any means available.  Insure unrest where there was none.  Sacrifice others and yourself to achieve the Liberal agenda.

Chris, I fear for your soul.  Yes, I believe you have one.

So what was the result of all of this?

Police were kicking in doors at the cabins by the ski resort, looking for Chris.  I hope they had warrants, and announced who they were.  If some unidentified person kicks my door in unannounced, I am shooting first, and asking questions later.  You can buy all the police gear you want from tons of catalogs, so your wearing that gear proves nothing to me.  They were kicking these doors in, without provocation, and rushing in with guns drawn, just because they were close to where Chris Dorner was last seen.  That is a capital offense in Police State California.

I hope no one was home at the cabins they broke into.  That would be a capital offense in Police State California.

The police shot the crap out of a 71 year old woman and her daughter as they were delivering newspapers.  They forgot to turn their lights on.  Their vehicle looked sort of similar to what Chris was initially reported as driving.  These are capital offenses in Police State California.

An hour later, in the same area, they shot the crap out of another such vehicle.  Twice in an hour.  Unbelievable.  Driving a vehicle that looks similar to one having been reported as being driven by Chris Dorner is a capital offense in Police State California.

Did they ever hear of knocking?  Or of pulling the vehicles over?  Are they that afraid?  Then why did they take the job in the first place?

Or, do they have orders to kill on sight?  No matter who gets killed in the mean time?

The media tells us that the police do not expect to take Chris alive.  No shit.

Even if he attempted to surrender, the shooting up of the two vehicles without provocation tells me that they are not planning on letting him do that.  I would be surprised to see him live through this.

The media wants to know why he was fired.  That would be a big part of his trial.  It would all come out there, straight from Chris’s mouth.  And from the homeless guy.  And from his dad.  The LAPD do not want that to happen.  Too many officers would have to bite the bullet, and would be losing their pensions.  At least, that is my opinion.  Sometimes I am wrong.

It is better to make sure that Chris dies for what he did.  No one will feel sorry for him.  And, when all of the media attention dies down, a few years down the road, everyone involved can get other big, cushy promotions.  I have seen that happen before.

The manhunt for Chris, and now the standoff at the cabin, is where the big media frenzy is going on.  But I want to know what happened to the four people in the two trucks that were shot up like Swiss cheese.  Two of them were shot, two miraculously were not hit.

The 71 year old woman was shot in the back, and was in serious condition, the last I heard.  She was undergoing surgery.

Is there no accountability for any of this?  Doesn’t the Liberal media care about any of this?  Is this all okay, as long as you say it was done in the interest of public safety?  Is it okay for the LAPD to shoot whoever they want?  How is this different from anyone else shooting someone for no good reason?  I would like to see the answers to all of those questions.  That is where the real story lies.

Perhaps I will see some answers.  Or perhaps I will not.

Well, Police State California does have the people scared now.  By their shooting down innocent people on the street.  By kicking doors down, and rushing in with guns drawn.  To me, it is a wonder that more cops and civilians were not shot through all of this.  Try doing that in Texas or Wyoming.

The four civilians who were shot at or actually hit certainly are scared of Police State California now.  And it will only cost the taxpayers something like $400,000,000.00 for each of them, once all of the lawsuits are settled.

A pretty good trade for being able to intimidate a few people through your arrogance and stupidity, don’t you think?

I do not want you to mix these big city self-styled bad-asses up with your local donut-eater who is all smiles when doing crossing guard duty at your local school three times a day on his or her shift.  Those cops come from the people, and generally have a good head on their shoulders.  And big hearts.  Most of them are counted among your fellow Patriots.  My problem is with the big city cops who feel that they are not a part of the society that they are supposed to protect, who feel that the Law does not specifically apply to them too.

In our country, there are those who feel that the citizens should have all of the guns taken away from them.  Only the military and police should have any guns.  There is a big problem with elevating one group above another.  The members of all of the groups are all raised in the same society.  So, they are no different from one another.  I am a respecter of neither the person nor the position.  If you are wise, you will do the same.


If you study the above chart (I believe this is FBI data covering the year 2009), you will see that the police are slightly less likely that the general population to commit a violent crime.  The general population includes college students, your Priest, your baker, CEOs, welfare recipients, crack dealers, axe murderers, etc.

The police are slightly more likely than the general population to commit an assault.

The police are almost 2.5 times as likely to have committed a sexual assault than are your Priest, your crack dealer, etc. 

The police are slightly less likely to have been charged with committing a homicide than are the general population.

But the police are almost six times as likely to have actually committed a homicide than are the general population.  This is clarified in the 2010 report at homicides committed during the use of excessive force on the job.


So, you want to take the guns away from the citizens, and give them all to the police?

No thank you!  I opt for taking all of the guns away from the police, and giving them to the citizens.  This will greatly reduce the likelihood of additional homicides, all other factors being equal.

If you trust in the police, who kill us at almost six times the rate of what our Priests, crack dealers, etc. do, you will be punished in the end most severely for your delusional trust.

I believe this explains the current shoot-to-kill paranoia evident in Police State California.  And elsewhere.  The police are far more predisposed to commit homicide than the rest of us are, if you count homicides occurring during the use of excessive force. 

For all of you good officers out there, I suggest you distance yourselves as well as you can from these corrupt big city police forces.  They give all of you a black eye.  Go join a small Town or County force.  We need you out here.  Or, report the corruption and the brutality of citizens that you see occurring in your precincts.  It should not take a misguided Chris Dorner to bring this all up to the surface again.  Do what is right.  For yourself.  For those you serve.  For all of us.



You can check out additional FBI (and others’) crime statistics charts in my public photo album on my Facebook page.  Look for the wall photo of the aluminum hats from the movie Signs.  That’s me, all right.

Gary Harper

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I am a working stiff who finds it hard to get all the bills paid sometimes. I am basically happy with my far-from-boring, crazy, albeit fulfilled life. But I have watched the earth and the people upon it for a very long time now. And I know that the Freedoms of the Upper Man, whose last stronghold on earth is the United States of America, are under constant attack by the Scarlet Babylonian Antichrist, and by the Beast upon who She rides. So now, after all of these years of obscurity behind the Green Hedge, beneath the Veil of the Chuppah, above the Smoky Glass Ceiling, it is time to speak of the things which I have always Known, and have seen and heard, and have been taught on that Fateful Day, by John Daniel.
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  1. TL (@TL) says:

    As a Californian, I will say that this is well written and on point. Good work!

  2. William says:

    Sounds to me like those who live in Cali need to start forming up their militia forces and start demanding action or else.

  3. Joe Kelly says:

    The one thing I question is not the fact that he did these deeds, but did he accually write this manifesto? His deeds and actions are opposite. The LAPD is not known for their truthfulness .

  4. Lehmon Baxley says:

    Most news sources saying they recovered a body from the burnt down cabin but have’nt id’d it yet. Fox is reporting no body has been found, that the remains of the cabin are still to hot to search so they are still maintaining the perimeter. Hmmm…who to believe.
    Dean, excellent article as usual. wish the MSM was as reliable.

  5. brian says:

    False flag, hired by Obama, promised new start on some far remote island on our taxpayer’s dollars. Body lost at sea. Haven’t we heard this story before? These are going to start happening all over. Drones. Unlawful search and seizure. Roadblocks from TSA etc etc. I’m tired of the bs brainwashed media. I’m ready to get my revolution on!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  6. Excellent post Gary. Sorry I was so slow to get to this. It’s been one of those days.

  7. Karen says:

    I’m not saying what he did was right, if he in fact did what he was accused of..but there is something wrong with this whole situation. I have heard that experts think that the second half of his manifesto was not written by the same person (the liberal worship part). And if we all are supposed to agree on the fact that our Constitution is the law of the land..then like it or not he was entitled to due process. Whatever happened to innocent until PROVEN guilty? The LAPD is NOTORIOUS for corruption and brutality..and not one of us here is in a position to judge his innocence or guilt. Only a jury of his peers is entitled to do that. I do know one thing however..if you listen to the background of this recording..the San Bernadino cops set the place on fire. It was also heard by an oathkeeper over the scanner. They tried to burn him alive..on purpose..I’m sure in a rage over the death of their fellow officer. If that is in fact the case, which this recording sure sounds like it is..then he was murdered by the police and denied due process..and that is wrong. That makes them no better than he was..only a jury of his peers was entitled to make that judgement. Even the reporter was taken aback by what she was hearing. Listen closely to the background and tell me they didn’t try to burn him alive. When he knew he had no way out..he killed himself. I wish they would have taken him in alive..that was the outcome I was hoping for..so that the corruption and brutality of the LAPD maybe could have been exposed. Maybe someday…
    https://www.youtube.com/watch? feature=player_embed…

    • Scott says:

      Karen – First of all, I am a police officer, have been for 23 years, all of it in small towns (less than 10,000 people) in the west. So, San Bernadino would be “Big City” cops to me. Secondly, yes, I do agree that it is very likely that there is corruption within LAPD and that possibly Dorner was a victim of that. Having said that, I would also believe that 9 out of 10 LAPD Officers are most likely fine men, family men, who serve their city sacrificially and bravely. Men who don’t deserve to die trying to apprehend a man like Dorner. When it comes right down to it, Dorner did everything possible in word and deed to prove that he would not be taken alive and that he would kill as many SO CAL police officers as he possibly could. Dorner had no right or justification whatsoever to do what he did, even if he was wrongfully terminated. Nowhere is it promised to us that life will always be fair, not even in the Bible. It is almost certain that life will not be fair. Dorner was a narcissist and he could not deal with perceived wrongs against him.

      Yesterday, just before the cabin was burned, he proved this once again. In law enforcement, and in the civilian world, lethal force is justified when your life is threatened by another. In my state, and I imagine CA is very similar, you can use deadly force to defend yourself or another person as necessary and reasonable, from physical force being used or threatened against you, when: 1) a lesser degree of force would be inadequate; 2) you have reasonable grounds to that you or another person is in imminent danger of being killed or seriously injured. I’d say that deadly force would be clearly justified against Dorner yesterday at any point unless he made some obvious attempt to surrender, which there is no evidence he did and after reading his manifesto I don’t believe he would have. I remind you that he had made it abundantly clear that this was not his intent, but his intent was to kill as many law enforcement officers as he could. He also killed the innocent child of the man who tried to help him, but was unsuccessful. This makes him nothing but pure evil. Imagine if that was your daughter. Dorner was a threat not only to law enforcement, but to all society.

      Regardless of what others may think, a police officer does not have to sacrifice their life or take a bullet before deadly force can be used.(Although in this case both of those things happened.) If a person points a gun at me, or pulls a knife on me, I can, and will kill them. I will not wait to see if they really will shoot me or lunge at me to stab me. If they exhibit the intent and ability to cause death or serious injury, deadly force is authorized and should be used. Having that in mind, I point out that deadly force is not limited to a firearm. It could be running someone over with a vehicle, hitting them over the head with a bat, throwing a hand grenade at them, choking them, blowing them up, dropping a grand piano on them or whatever means you have at your disposal, including fire. Doesn’t matter.

      There is no reason Dorner needed any more “chances.” An attempted entry would have almost certainly resulted in another officer shot. A prolonged standoff would have certainly resulted in more gunfire coming out of the cabin from Dorner, directed at officers. Dorner had already fired hundred of rounds at officers and as he was so kind to point out, he was an expert rifleman. Even if the cabin was intentionally burned, at that point, under the circumstances as we understand them, I believe that burning the cabin was totally justified and probably the next thing I would have done if Dorner did not give up after gas being introduced into the structure, which apparently he did not.

      Men do not sign up as Police Officers with the understanding that it is OK and acceptable to be killed. The number one rule of police officers has been and always will be, go home to your family at the end of your shift. I shed no tears and feel not one iota of sympathy for Dorner. He dictated the situation and the circumstances of his demise.

      • Gary Harper says:

        Your are absolutely correct in saying that Dorner dictated the end result to the situation. He should have sent his allegations to Time Magazine or something. My biggest problem with all of it is his shooting the girl and then calling her father and taunting him. That is so wrong on so may levels. And then the officers shooting at innocent people. That also is so wrong on so many levels. We are glad to hear the opinion of officers such as you. It is the 10 percent you mention who cause all of the problems, and that leads to a lack of faith in the whole system.

      • docjrazi@yahoo.com says:

        scott: also people dont sign up, by paying taxes/police salaries to be mistreated by them, constant tickets, pullovers, road blocks overaggressive behavior or when abusive officer unneccesarily pulls taser or gun on me or other innocent civilian we should have the right to fight back, as you said shoot first and trust cops later and go home to our families. cops by their very mentality /background are the abusive ones , period. and they should be severely limited in numbers, have decreased power and authority to decrease their abuse potential. As ron paul stated, Police/authoritarian state is first sign of crumbling society

        • Scott says:

          Yes, bad cops should be weeded out and prosecuted if appropriate. But, our society needs Police, good Police. Not a Police State, but good public servants who know their role and the constitution, I like to call them Sheepdogs. Most people are sheep. Without the sheepdogs the wolves will feast unchecked. The police must be trustworthy and uphold the constitution, even in the face of politicians or administrators who would prefer they did not; those who do not should not be wearing a badge. I do not agree with your assertion that “cops by their very mentality /background are the abusive ones.” You also seem to think that anyone who has the idea they are being arrested wrongly should have a free pass to fight the cops, shoot them or whatever you mean by this. That is the mentality of Chris Dorner. Not one drunk driver, wife beater, child molester, burglar or rapist I ever arrested seemed to agree that he /she should be arrested. If the Federal Govt. decides to completely throw the constitution out the window and try to confiscate guns, that is different. In that case, I would be resisting too. But to say that you should resist every lawful action by an authority figure is absolutely crazy. You seem to assert that all police are corrupt and abusive, maybe where you live,but not as a rule. Most police officers I know are protectors and defenders of the constitution and of individual rights and frown upon the thought of violating even a known criminals rights. Believe it or not, there are also some very good men in Federal Law Enforcement who will also fight for your rights and who work very hard at keeping very bad people from hurting you, your wife and your children. They are not abusive and they uphold the constitution and I am grateful for them (yes, there are exceptions, more in some agencies than others). Unless you have spent some time in law enforcement, the average citizen cannot know the depravity and the evil that men are capable of. The things you read about in the news, that you think are heinous crimes, well, most of the time you are still being spared the details that would make you want to vomit.

          “The sheep generally do not like the sheepdog. He looks a lot like the wolf. He has fangs and the capacity for violence. The difference, though, is that the sheepdog must not, cannot and will not ever harm the sheep. Any sheepdog who intentionally harms the lowliest little lamb will be punished and removed. The world cannot work any other way, at least not in a representative democracy or a republic such as ours.”
          Lt. Col Dave Grossman

  8. Karen says:

    Sorry the link didn’t post completely. Here is the video..listen closely. The cops sound positively rabid..and there is no mistaking what they were saying. They were out to kill him..plain and simple. And these aren’t even big city cops. It’s almost nauseating to listen to…

  9. None of what Dean has written comes as a surprise to me. After the bad behaviour of the police in New Orleans, after Katrina, I lost pretty much all respect for the police and their ability to represent the community in a fair and balanced way. They are quick to abuse their authority and seem to be enjoying themselves while doing it. I have watched several, SEVERAL, videos on YouTube displaying the brutal and Godless way they treat their follow citizens. As citizens we find ourselves caught between gang bangers and gangs of police. One is just as bad as the other. Anyone who figures that gun controll is a good thing needs to have their head examined.

    Our ForeFathers, GrandFathers, and Fathers fought for the right to be free and I’ll fight to be free. I have already had background checks and see nothing wrong with the proccess. But any laws that are passed to further limit the type of firearms, or size of magazines, or number of bullits, or registration, or any other fuckin thing, I will ignor. So it appears that I might die a criminal simply because I own a gun, but somehow the thought of living as a subject makes me sick to my stomach.

    Its a personal choice that each one of us may have to make, either die a free man or live as a coward. At worst there are 63,000,000 people who figure ” mom and dad obama” will take care of them and look after their best interest. So that leaves 240,000,000 thats not so sure it will work out that way.

    The State of the Union tonight was a pack of lies, frabricated to take your mind off of what is really happening. jmho.

  10. Some of us have been through this type of drama, many times before. Just to get you thinking as many are. We have Waco, Ruby Ridge, Move, the SLA, and now this. What all of these have in common is, they all set themselves on fire, or so we are conditioned to believe.

    With all due respect to the officer who knows her right to use deadly force; I ask: ” does she really believe the LAPD, BATF, HS, FBI, and many other of the alphabet groups, respect our rights?” Does the people who you, and they serve, truly have any rights left?

    I have no respect for what (they say) this man did!! Yet we are a nation of laws; we don’t make kill list; nor become so outraged that we commit murder. How is anyone in that manhunt better then him? The whole world has heard the foul mouthed words of them saying: “burn that mother f.er down.” Just as we all know he had been put on the “Drone” kill list. What are we becoming is the real question??

    With the NWO right in our face; are we going to Walk Gently Into The Night, or Resist? Anyone of us could be next. Some will met the same or worse fate… May God help us all……PEACE!!!!!!

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